GRANGE: There's no 100 percent protection, but it would provide much more protection than a Humvee and they are readily available and can be up-armored quickly. As he remembers: "Operations never quit. We'd drive the tracks into the motor pool and tell them what was wrong with them. "In the field, we were a lot better off having tracked vehicles than were the leg infantry. These old BFV skirts sitting at Red River Arsenal and on decaying BFVs in other locations can be cut and fitted to Gavins for only the cost of installation. In reality, however, it was almost as good to drive off the enemy: They may get another shot at you tomorrow, but for today, you have made it through. This made an early plan requiring marine commandos to rescue the hostages and then surrender to Ugandan soldiers undesirable. The basic 1970s design of the LAV armored car is based on faulty assumptions and cannot be excused away by posturing that it was done 10 years after the sound M113 light tracked design was created.
When crews examined their vehicles, they found that the sandbags had absorbed several hits from small arms and shrapnel, saving several Soldiers from serious injury." M113 Gavins air-deployed to Panama during the Operation NIMROD DANCER Build-up M113 rolling off C-5B with cargo trailer Car smashed by mighty M113's tracks, LAV-type rubber tired armored cars can't drive over much less crush cars M113 ducking from under a building Front view of M113 rolling off C-5B cargo jet The Mighty M113 Gavin: victor in 5 decades of combat "On Ancon Hill, the M113s were already started and running. Smith was a pack rat, collecting marbles, screws, and other odds and ends. As he moved up the ranks, Smith drilled his troops incessantly on the need to be prepared, to be ready for any situation and to watch each other's backs. Yet what appears to be at least at first blush when we have men and women without sufficient armored vests, when they don't have armored vehicles, even the old APC, it does raise a question, what in the world has gone on with our command structure? What is -- what is taking so long for the command structure of the U.S. Army, the U.S. military, to provide the equipment that our men and women need in Iraq?
As the war began, thousands of Iraqi civilians began fleeing the country and were put up in tents. Instead, they want the Pentagon to turn back the clock and re-deploy thousands of Vietnam-era M-113 "Gavin" armoured personnel carriers, which are still used by support and engineering units, and are held in huge numbers by reserve units. Filed: 28/04/2004) Armoured cars being sent to Iraq are not up to the job, according to a senior United States army general, prompting calls for Pentagon chiefs to swallow their pride and reactivate thousands of mothballed Vietnam-era armoured personnel carriers. Two more APCs arrived on the third C-130 and joined the first two. First of all, the -- any armored vehicle can take a certain kind of hit and be destroyed or incapacitated. The reunions weren't all fun and games, however. The problem in Vietnam, of course, was finding a target at which to fire.
Gen Ellis said it was "imperative" that the Pentagon instead accelerate production of the newest armoured personnel carrier, the Stryker, which weighs 19 tons and moves at high speed on eight rubber tyres. General Ellis wants to shift Army funds to build twice as many of the Army's newest combat vehicle, the Stryker, which has eight wheels, weighs 19 tons and when equipped with a special cage can withstand an RPG attack. A team of Air Force technicians were already hard at work offloading heavy fuel pumps - hastily acquired by an inspired quartermaster one day earlier - and setting up to transfer Idi Amin's precious aviation fluid into the thirsty tanks of the lead transport - a process that would take well over an hour. Any backyard mechanic can work on a M113, not so on a M1 or a Brad. We do not have to wait any longer! The Humvee is not the answer.
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